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peterleogh

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peterleogh says:

snowdon

 Hy ive been waliking for about 6months now ,  me and a freind have decided to climb snowdon in febuary next year , we have checked the routes out and going to use the watkins trail ! has anyone walked it and if so any hints /tips thanks pete

 
hillhiker1

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hillhiker1 says:

Re: snowdon

I walked that path a couple of weeks ago on that glorious Saturday we had..

T'was a wonderful walk with great views all day. I came down via the Bwlch Main and Clogwyn Du.

The only thing I would warn of (and it sounds obvious..) but it really is uphill aaaalll the way there, with a particularly steep finish up a scree path. If any of your party may be put off by the sight of the summit pretty much from the off, don't take 'em.

Absolutely cracking walk, easy navigation and once up on the col between Yr Llewedd and Snowdon there are (at least there were for me) stunning views down to Llyn Llydaw and over to the other ranges around.

Here's a couple of pics to whet your appetite! In Feb you may even have snow....

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clwydian

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clwydian says:

Re: snowdon

Best clockwise, up the south ridge and back down the scree bit and the Watkin Path.

vick

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vick says:

Re: snowdon

Most likely to be covered in snow and ice in February isnt it ? So the "huge line of people" wont be there and havent done the Watkins path but would advise that a full on winter walk up Snowdon is a serious proposition for any newbie.

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hillhiker1

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hillhiker1 says:

Re: snowdon

I went on a cracking day in Autumn and there wasn't a huge line of people then either, I saw about 10 folk all told... Once I got to the summit,..... erm I mean upper part though; it was positively heaving (lots of people).

Smartcooky

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Smartcooky says:

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I went up in jan this year and it was absolutely heaving.  I've never seen so many people on a hill in my life.  Easy walk btw, even for a newbie.

Why do you want to climb Snowdon so badly? Is it because its the highest in Wales? There's better hills in the UK than Snowdon.  Snowdon probably used to be a nice hill to climb, but its been spoilt by the thousands of people who climb it every single day of the year.

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Smartcooky

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Smartcooky says:

Re: snowdon

peterleogh said:

 Hy ive been waliking for about 6months now ,  me and a freind have decided to climb snowdon in febuary next year , we have checked the routes out and going to use the watkins trail ! has anyone walked it and if so any hints /tips thanks pete



 

Oh and btw, I am offering a guided trek to Kinder Scouts base camp for half price on ebay. You will get to spend 14 days trekking to base camp with yours truly who has summited Kinder a record 5 times, once without the use supplementary oxygen. 
 

Because you are a fellow member of trail i will offer you a further discount of 10%.  This can be yours for a cut price of £15000.

Trip Highlights:

Spend time with the greatest mountaineer of all time (Me)

Superb views of Kinder Scout throughout trek

14 days trekking to base camp

1 night in the mountain village of Castleton

All meals, sleeping bag, 4 hot showers, snacks and ‘bed tea’ included on trek

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PhilR

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PhilR says:

Re: snowdon

Pete, I would agree with Vick, Snowdon is very likley to have snow and ice on it in February and as the final section of the Watkin path is pretty steep, If you are new to walking then I would recommend you wait until spring before attempting it. This route although popular is not as popular as the pen y pass routes which can as people have hinted at turn into a bit of procession. As Hillhiker1 has shown in his pics if you get the right day the views are excellent. I say if Snowdon and the Watkin path is the mountain and route you want to do go for it and enjoy it, but I would still recommend you wait for spring due to the winter conditions.

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PhilR

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PhilR says:

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The only person who can answer if he will be comfortable going up in what is likley to be winter conditions is Pete himself if he is great & if he isn't, so what. The main thing is that "he" enjoys it.
 

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Stuey

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Stuey says:

Re: snowdon

PhilR said:

The only person who can answer if he will be comfortable going up in what is likley to be winter conditions is Pete himself if he is great & if he isn't, so what. The main thing is that "he" enjoys it.
 

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Totally agree

 

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hillhiker1

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hillhiker1 says:

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Andy Say said:
Stuey said:

for some reason people on here love to use phrases like Cols, Ridges, Summits it's just Snowdon .....

 

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'Bwlch', 'crib', 'copaon'.  They better words?  Its what they use round these parts.

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dumbbookie

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dumbbookie says:

Re: snowdon

peterleogh said:

 Hy ive been waliking for about 6months now ,  me and a freind have decided to climb snowdon in febuary next year , we have checked the routes out and going to use the watkins trail ! has anyone walked it and if so any hints /tips thanks pete


Hi Peter
 

If you've only been walking for 6 months, Vick makes a very valid point.  Snowdon has the potential to be a dangerous place in winter conditions if you are not properly prepared and trained.

So, check the conditions , if you are in any doubt err on the side of caution, and do something differet - the Glyders from PenyPas can be a safer winter route, and come back to Snowdon when YOU feel confident. 

Please ignore those posters who through an inappropriate sense of unfunny humour, or through a pathetic desire to appear macho play down the risks. 

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SiIngram

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SiIngram says:

Re: snowdon

Hi Peter

I summitted Snowdon by the Watkin Path last February and it was a very serious undertaking; Snowdon can experience all sorts of weather in winter but February is a particularly necky month as regards the possibility of getting caught out - and that goes for any route, not just the Watkin. I have to say they were some of the most extreme conditions I've been out in – the summit was thick with snow and ice, the windchill was in the minus twenties and navigation was very difficult indeed.

Snowdon's an awesome peak at any time of year (it can get busy up there but in my opinion and I imagine a lot of others it doesn't detract at all from the mountain's magnificence and there are plenty of places where you can find relative solitude to enjoy the views!) but I would definitely suggest being experienced with winter conditions and have ice axe, crampons and a full set of winter skills before tackling it between December and March. 

Personally, I'd certainly recommend climbing it summer conditions first, for enjoyment as well as safety – and getting skilled up for winter and a few smaller peaks in the bag in snowy conditions before you go for the biggie.

All the best,

Simon

PS, this was it yesterday. Stunning!

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theuglysouth

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theuglysouth says:

Re: snowdon

Myself and a group of friends have been doing the Snowdon Horsehoe every February for the last 15 years, and this includes descending down the Watkin path en route to Y Lliwedd. Conditions have varied from dry rock in glorious sunshine, through gales and rain to firm/icy snow. Last year was particularly challenging due to the iciness in places - Crib Goch was out of the question for us. Those in our group without ice axes and crampons were unable to get to the summit via the Miners Track, as the top of this was treacherous and they wisely turned back. We saw a lot of people struggling there. In those conditions the top part of the Watkin path requires proper winter skills, experience and equipment.

So, if you do go in February, be prepared for anything weather wise and turn back if it's beyond your experience or equipment.

RamblingJack

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RamblingJack says:

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I remember a good few years back taking a total novice up Snowdon, or atleast trying to. During a very easy scramble my "apprentice" told me he couldnt move, frozen to the spot. The weather was near perfect and virtually no wide open drops to be seen. The challenges of Snowdon are not always weather related but are magnified many times in adverse conditions. Physically I believe anybody can walk/climb Snowdon but mentally - well thats a very different question. There are lots of natural obsticles not least weather, weather changes, temperature changes, the open drops, the remoteness.............and on and on depending on the individual. Lets not forget many people do infact die up there every year............

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twiglegs

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twiglegs says:

Re: snowdon

Smartcooky said:
peterleogh said:

 Hy ive been waliking for about 6months now ,  me and a freind have decided to climb snowdon in febuary next year , we have checked the routes out and going to use the watkins trail ! has anyone walked it and if so any hints /tips thanks pete



 

Oh and btw, I am offering a guided trek to Kinder Scouts base camp for half price on ebay. You will get to spend 14 days trekking to base camp with yours truly who has summited Kinder a record 5 times, once without the use supplementary oxygen. 
 

Because you are a fellow member of trail i will offer you a further discount of 10%.  This can be yours for a cut price of £15000.

Trip Highlights:

Spend time with the greatest mountaineer of all time (Me)

Superb views of Kinder Scout throughout trek

14 days trekking to base camp

1 night in the mountain village of Castleton

All meals, sleeping bag, 4 hot showers, snacks and ‘bed tea’ included on trek

Do not trust this man to take you up Kinder, i've heard he gets his customers drunk and takes them up the wrong route, for want of a better expression.

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Taffy_Tours

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Taffy_Tours says:

Re: snowdon

vick said:

Most likely to be covered in snow and ice in February isnt it ? So the "huge line of people" wont be there and havent done the Watkins path but would advise that a full on winter walk up Snowdon is a serious proposition for any newbie.


That was my 1st thought too, but take proper precautions, get the appropriate advice, do your research, increase your knowledge, know your kit intimately, check you tube, check google earth, get really good with weather translation and recognition, know your dangers and lastly treat it with respect it deserves and if in doubt at any time turn back.  It'll still be there, next week, month and year

 

Hope you enjoy yourself and take lots of piccies.

Dwi'n dysgu Cymraeg. But as the great bard said "Duw it's hard"

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