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PBamber19

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PBamber19 says:

Therm-a-rest Neo Air

 Hi Guys,

I was wondering if anyone out there had got one and what they thought about it? Reading up on it, it looks fantastic and having seen one in my local Cotswold Outdoors, I can't believe how compact and light it is!!

Another quicke...the R- value attached to it and other inflatable mattresses I've seen. From what I understand this refers to a warmth rating, but what excatly does the R stand for/how does the rating work? Thanks a lot guys!

 
Gromit

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Gromit says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

I have one. It packs to about the size of a Sigg bottle and weighs very little, yet is a lot thicker than my old standard Thermarest, so a good result all around. Can't help with the R rating, though.

Stuey

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Stuey says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

Bought one of these start of this year for wild camping and it's the only matress I have had a decent nights sleep on, previous ones being Thermarests but always waking up with sore shoulders or hips but not with this it's awesome and weighs nothing.

Highly recommend although a bit pricey in my opinion.

"Ble mae'r tafarn
cheers2u

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cheers2u says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

I have both a thermarest and 3/4 length thermarest. The smaller one I take wild camping. I really like the idea of the Neoair. But can't justify the cost when I already have two! So, When wildcamping I look for spots which have long grass, heather...or some healthy thick ground cover which makes for  softer bedding anyway!..........I can empathise about the sore hips and shoulders on some campsites where the ground is almost bare of grass.

I'd like to have a Neoair for one reason only. The insulation it provides when camping in winter. See, I'm beginning to justify the cost!........

"Well, I'm standing next to a mountain........an' I chop it down with the edge of hand........huh, huh"
Stuey

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Stuey says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

mmm sounds to me like you have already ordered one, see I have the dilemma when I buy something I don't really need I try and convince myself that it is hugely overpriced and a total waste of money and NO way would I ever buy one of those LOL, doe's this sound familiar.

So hope you enjoy the Neoair cheers2u   

"Ble mae'r tafarn
cheers2u

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cheers2u says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

Stuey said:

mmm sounds to me like you have already ordered one, see I have the dilemma when I buy something I don't really need I try and convince myself that it is hugely overpriced and a total waste of money and NO way would I ever buy one of those LOL, doe's this sound familiar.

So hope you enjoy the Neoair cheers2u   


 

LOL!!!........true for every occasion so far!...........but this time, I'm still dithering, still on the brink. Justification will be provided by the first frosts next month! 

"Well, I'm standing next to a mountain........an' I chop it down with the edge of hand........huh, huh"
jub2k

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jub2k says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

Ok.. Im aware I may get some flak from neoair fans, but here are the facts below..

An 'R' rating is a bit like the tog rating on a quilt at home... The following mats ratings are:

Thermarest Neoair: R 2.5

Alpkit Numo: R 2.5.

Thermarest Prolite+: R 3.8

Thermarest Neoair all weather: R4.9 

 (Based on manufacturers info listed on their website).

 

So, you can buy a regular neoair, which is lightest at 410g (regular length) or a winter one at 540g (also regular length)

A regular one costs around £100 brand new (not counting any offers you might find), I couldnt find a price for the new all weather one (not sure if it's launched yet)..

A good comparison is the Alpkit Numo (or the one from Pacific outdoor - they are very similar).. They weigh about the same as the winter neoair, but are only about £40..

 

Be aware that a regular neoair (ie not ''all weather'') is NOT supposed to be a winter mat.. They can (and are), used in winter, but they are not as warm as you'd expect (or as warm as people make out)..

They are very stable and comfy though...

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PBamber19

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PBamber19 says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

Thanks all for your opinions guys! Having looked on the cascade designs webpage at the Neo Air and Neo Air All Season. The newer 2011 All Season comes out at an R value of 4.9 and according to their figures weighs 540g for a regular, which at 5'9" would suit me. Seems like a great piece of kit that would 'possible' be worth the investment. I haven't seen it on sale anywhere as of yet either though.

 

I'll probably hang around a bit to see when it comes out, how much it'll be going for and any reviews on it. I don't do any winter walking at the moment, but as I get more experience i'd like to, so investing in it long term may be a good idea? 

PeterSlo

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PeterSlo says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

Got the regular Neo, £80, love it to pieces. It even survived a dogs claws scrabbling across it repeatedly in a bothy so its tough.

Hate to say it Dave but when you combine your thermarest with your generously padded physique you must get a comfy nights sleep    

Hope you well mate and enjoying the jokes. Shhhh.    

 

PBamber19

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PBamber19 says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

 Where did you find it for £80? When I looked in Cotswold Outdoors it was £125. Cheers Buddy!

Guinness

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Guinness says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

Go Outdoors are currently selling the Neo-Air small for a little over £60... http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/neoair-small-p155821

I have the small and it's perfect.

 

Not sure about the other sizes.

twiglegs

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twiglegs says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

The "normal" Neoair isn't warm enough for winter use imo, and yes, i have used one down to -10, and whilst being bloody comfy it's not up to full on winter conditions.

 

I convinced myself it was, for a couple of years, them i tried a Exped down mat.

Late spring to early autumn = Neoair.

Otherwise the Exped, it's like sleeping on a warm cloud.

 

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terrybnd

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terrybnd says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

 Exped Synmat UL

Much better than a NeoAir and cheaper too 

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PWSY16

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PWSY16 says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

 So is the POE Ether

Shut up legs
Taffy_Tours

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Taffy_Tours says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

I have one of these and I can't say enough for it.  I am a cold sleeper but the Neo Air kept me toasty. Love, love, love.

Dwi'n dysgu Cymraeg. But as the great bard said "Duw it's hard"
twiglegs

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twiglegs says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

Taffy_Tours said:

I have one of these and I can't say enough for it.  I am a cold sleeper but the Neo Air kept me toasty. Love, love, love.

Have you tried that on frozen ground or snow. ?

I have and i wouldn't recommend the Neoair in those conditions.

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terrybnd

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terrybnd says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

twiglegs said:
Taffy_Tours said:

I have one of these and I can't say enough for it.  I am a cold sleeper but the Neo Air kept me toasty. Love, love, love.

Have you tried that on frozen ground or snow. ?

I have and i wouldn't recommend the Neoair in those conditions.

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kopite

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kopite says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

I`ve got the large Neoair as it`s wider than other models and I love it. I`ve not tested it in winter and probably wouldn`t expect much warmth from it either but for lightness and comfort, it`s a winner!¬

chrissiec

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chrissiec says:

Re: Therm-a-rest Neo Air

Hi

I have a Thermarest Neoair (short) and it's really comfortable, but didn't find it quite as warm as my Thermarest Prolite 4, which has a higher R value. So, for winter use I bought a Thermarest Neoair All Seasons mat, which actually has a higher R value than the Prolite 4. Again, this is super comfortable, but not quite as light as the ordinary Neoair as they don't do a short version. Well worth the extra tiny bit of weight though. However, the downside to the Neoair All Seasons is that you can't buy it in the UK, I had to purchase it on-line from a USA company, and because they're not allowed to ship Thermarest products to the UK had to then have it delivered to a friend in New Jersey, who posted it on to me...

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